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3 Girls Expelled from Nobel Middle School Following Anti-Semitic 'Prank'

Comedian Jon Lovitz took to the Internet to denounce the incident.

Three girls who reportedly admitted to police that they on a classmate's walkway April 3 have been permanently expelled from Nobel Middle School in Northridge, according to KCBS2.

School officials would not confirm the action but told the Jewish Journal, the girls “are being disciplined according to school policy.”

"The three girls who vandalized my friends home with swastikas and dog crap, have been expelled from their school permanently," comedian Jon Lovitz tweeted Tuesday.

Lovitz took to the Internet to denounce what police called an "ill-advised prank," at the Northridge home of a childhood friend whose parents were Holocaust survivors.

He tweeted, "Some coward & idiot left this on a friend's doorstep, yesterday. This is an insult to all of us."

In an odd twist, the girls are not being prosecuted for a hate crime, because the swastikas and the word "Jew," written in maple syrup, did not do permanent damage. But one mother may face a year in jail and a $1,000 fine for driving the girls to the scene, based on a charge police are recommending to the city attorney’s office, the Jewish Journal reports. The woman was not being identified until charges are filed.

-- The Huffington Post, KCBS2 and the Jewish Journal contributed to this report.

K.C. April 15, 2012 at 11:52 AM
Leigh There is no possibility that you will ever convince others of your way of thinking, and clearly you can’t accept anything that anyone has to say to you so that’s it. The funny thing is that your mentality is every bit as dangerous as the people who us the swastika as a symbol of evil. Your exactly the type who would kill someone to prove your self-righteous way of thinking, the same type of mind that would kill an abortion doctor in the name of "Right to Life" because in the end only you know what’s right and what’s wrong. And you will kick someone’s ass to prove violence isn’t the answer. And Leigh, no response is necessary, we already know how you feel.
Leigh Datzker April 15, 2012 at 01:24 PM
es, you make the point for those of us who abhor the symbol. You see Swastikas have a permanence, whether they are drawn in piaint or maple syrup, or otherwise emblazoned somewhere in our current society. The claim of police was because the symbols were not permanent that they were not part of a hate crime. Certain issues cannot be explained away, and cannot be tolerated. If you do not learn from history you will be condemmed to repeat it. The assimilated Jews in Germany were the first to lose everything. We cannot allow the Swastika to lead another wave of anti-Jewish sentiment. If someone wants to attack a Jew or someone they think is a Jew, then up pops the Swastika. This is not an extreme postion, rather a learned position deriving itself from a history that saw the extermination of generations only because they were Jewish. So, es if you do not speak out with a vengeance, aren't you giving those haters another avenue to raise this hateful symbol? Never Again!
PHILIP April 15, 2012 at 03:13 PM
phil,i have read all the posts.i have had a 12 year old.i know how bitchie they can be.i doubt that they could have know much about what the Germans did to the Jews and other minority groups.the adult that planted this seed must take responsibility.councling may help all or some of them.however,at that age their parents must /should help them.sadly,today we live in world where so often it is to break people down.everything our kids know is brain washing by either us ,the parents,the politicians,the church,the teachers, or the media. AS MUCH AS WE WANT IT-THERE IS NO PERFECT SOCIETY
és April 15, 2012 at 05:20 PM
leigh, on every level i oppose the swastika. it makes me sick to my stomach when i see it. i pulled down a scribbled piece of paper with "hate jews" and swastikas from my 4th grader's classroom door last year. i have zero tolerance. what i'm saying is that i never knew the symbol belonged to the buddhists before hitler claimed it as his. my point is in the context the buddhists use it as a symbol of eternity. shoudn't we let them have that? i dont see them taking it outside of their temples & displaying it publicly as a symbol of eternity (maybe because they understand hitler has made it the universal symbol of hatred). i agree w/you that we can't let it happen again, that we cannot renew the symbol, but i dont think the people claiming it stands for eternity are waiving it around under that guise but are subliminally thinking it means hate the Jews. Maybe i'm not making my point. I know when I see it I am offended, i'm just saying if I went into a Buddhist home and saw it I'd be offended & want to leave. But if they explained what i now know about the history of it before Hitler, don't I have a duty to not judge them as it doesn't represent hatred to them as it was taught to them? At the end of the day I teach my daughter zero tolerance, she is in Hebrew school and I will never let anyone disgrace my religion without defending it.
joyce April 15, 2012 at 09:28 PM
I completely agree with you, Leigh. We must publicly proclaim "Never Again." When I see a swastika scrawled on any surface (walls, walkways, even on pieces of paper), I have a visceral reaction that fills me with fear. It is a visual warning to be aware that there are Jew-haters, even in my own neighborhood. Non-Jews and naive Jews do not fully understand the impact of being hated simply because you are Jewish. Let the defenders of the swastika read Holocaust survivor Elie Weisel's account of his youth spent in a concentration camp. Then they might understand that a swastika (and in this case accompanied by dog shit and the word "Jew") defacing a Jewish person's property declares one thing only--hatred designed to instill fear. Some of the commentary here is from those who defend the swastika, insisting that it must also be recognized as a peaceful symbol that has other meanings. I am fully aware It is a common decoration with a positive connotation woven into handmade blankets and beaded hat bands crafted by the American Indians. However, to take the swastika out of the context of a clearly anti-semitic act is to be indifferent to intolerance. In Wiesel's words, “There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest.” Never Again!
joyce April 15, 2012 at 09:32 PM
I completely agree with you, Leigh. We must publicly proclaim "Never Again." When I see a swastika scrawled on any surface (walls, walkways, even on pieces of paper), I have a visceral reaction that fills me with fear. It is a visual warning to be aware that there are Jew-haters, even in my own neighborhood. Non-Jews and naive Jews do not fully understand the impact of being hated simply because you are Jewish. Let the defenders of the swastika read Holocaust survivor Elie Weisel's "Night," an account of his youth spent in a concentration camp Then they might understand that a swastika (and in this case accompanied by dog shit and the word "Jew") defacing a Jewish person's property declares one thing only--hatred designed to instill fear. Some of the commentary here is from those who defend the swastika, insisting that it must also be recognized as a peaceful symbol that has other meanings. I am fully aware It is a common decoration with a positive connotation woven into handmade blankets and beaded hat bands crafted by the American Indians. However, to take the swastika out of the context of a clearly anti-semitic act is to be indifferent to intolerance. In Wiesel's words, “There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest.” Never Again!
John April 16, 2012 at 05:22 PM
Well in the western world almost everyone knows it for a bad thing, which is fairly logical. Annelouise/Bryana Weiss he does have a point though. In Asia the sign has been around for THOUSANDS of years and there are hundreds of millions of people who doesn't connect it to Nazism. I truly hope you guys know that, but I doubt it.
Joe Juku April 16, 2012 at 11:44 PM
Yes, the swastika was around long before it was appropriated by the Nazi party, and I understand was even used in decorative elements in synagogues centuries ago. I think recent context makes it important for people to be very cautious about its use - in fact, I'd be happy if it was avoided completely - but its history is very long and it's unfair to say that people who have traditionally used it should stop... that in some sense would be extending the damage done by the Nazis in appropriating the symbol. That said, any time the symbol is used in clear context with the word "Jew", or in association with vandalism, etc., it should indeed be interpreted as the Nazi symbol rather than the traditional Indian one and considered a hate crime.
Joe Juku April 16, 2012 at 11:46 PM
Yes, the swastika was around long before it was appropriated by the Nazi party, and I understand was even used in decorative elements in synagogues centuries ago. I think recent context makes it important for people to be very cautious about its use - in fact, I'd be happy if it was avoided completely - but its history is very long and it's unfair to say that people who have traditionally used it should stop... that in some sense would be extending the damage done by the Nazis in appropriating the symbol. That said, any time the symbol is used in clear context with the word "Jew", or in association with vandalism, etc., it should indeed be interpreted as the Nazi symbol rather than the traditional Indian one and considered a hate crime.
Chris Starkman April 17, 2012 at 01:16 AM
Yes, "one stupid mistake" should dictate their futures--if they learn from it! Getting expelled from school just might drive home the lesson. That IS the severe consequence. They don't get to be with their friends anymore. they blew it, and they need to feel the consequences. And these are appropriate consequences. (They are not going to jail.) How is it going to ruin their future? Oh. They might have to go to middle school in Sylmar? The horror! The fact that a parent drove them shows that they are not getting good lessons at home. It would be a "stupid mistake" to let them think they "got away with it." Therapy? Only if their parents join them. Otherwise, any good done in therapy will be wiped out by their families. Separate them and send each of them to a school where they just might be on the receiving end of bullying.
Joe April 17, 2012 at 03:24 PM
wth? whats wrong with people, jews are awesome, and the swastika was soposed to be a sign for good luck among the gypsies, now people are using it in hate crimes?
Joe April 17, 2012 at 03:33 PM
one VERY stupid CRIME
Cat Welpley April 17, 2012 at 05:51 PM
Your all haters and should be a shamed of yourselves. I was 14 when the Twin Towers went down and didn't really have a FULL undetstanding of what happened. I'm sure these girls have a FULL understanding NOW and are a shamed. I didn't learn about the Holocaust till my junior year. Even then it wasn't accurate compared to what I learned at the Museum of Tolerance . Everyone is a loud to make a mistake. The important thing is to learn from them and become better people. Where is everyone's forgiveness and understanding? ...I'm sure we have ALL DONE something we wish we could take back.
Cat Welpley April 17, 2012 at 06:10 PM
I agree Cat. My girlfriend showed her teenage daughter a picture of a swastika and asked her if she knew what it meant. She said yes.. It means your are Jewish. Maybe we need to educate at an earlier age
danapoint dad April 17, 2012 at 11:34 PM
john, make sure to share this opinion with your teachers and administrators... oh, and your parents too... share this exact post with them, in fact... good boy.
danapoint dad April 17, 2012 at 11:41 PM
I agree that the use of swastikas, especially combined with the word "Jews" and dog feces in this instance, qualifies this as a definite hate crime... Not to diminish the plight of the Jews, who lost so many at the murderous hands of the nazis, there were several millions of other folks who got gassed, shot, starved to death etc along with the Jews... Gypsies, homosexuals, and others deemed not "german/nordic" at the time... It was a horrific time, and was only a very few decades ago... Any type of hate crime or bullying needs to be dealt with in the most harsh manner, it is not just some stupid mistake these girls made... it goes WAY deeper than that. on another note, regarding the symbol, it was also used by some native americans in their art before the white man came along...
danapoint dad April 17, 2012 at 11:43 PM
actually, the swastika IS a symbol of evil... sure, it has been used in other cultures in other times, but the use of it by the nazis has tainted it forever.
danapoint dad April 17, 2012 at 11:49 PM
regardless of the swastika, the whole act was definitely an act of bullying... this should be grounds for immediate expulsion... bullying is inexcusable on all levels. let the kids go to school somewhere new, with the understanding that their actions DO have consequences.
Lauren Oberhansley April 18, 2012 at 03:39 PM
Yes these girls should be expelled as well as educated. Maybe they should also complete community service at Holocaust Museum as well as being educated on the part of liberating the peoples of the Jewish faith from the concentration camps during World War II. My father was one of the thousands of United States Soldiers who fought to liberate peoples of this faith, as well as any other faith so it would never happen again, possibly to the faith that these girls are. They not only knew what they were doing and what it meant, but are part of the growing issues of bullies among our school aged children. Just pray that your child is never bullied. Bullying has caused children to commit suicide. Would these girls and this mother stop at vandalism, or would they continue to persecute this family and others by other forms of bullying and would they be able to live with theimselves if they caused a fellow student to end their life? They, along with the adult role model, (the mother), do not appear to have a conscience and would probably continue to spread their hate for not only the people of the Jewish faith, but to anyone that they do not like or that are have different beliefs.
Lauren Oberhansley April 18, 2012 at 03:45 PM
cont. They should be barred from attending any LAUSD school on MY TAX DOLLARS and their parents, especially the mother who participated, should have to pay for private education through the 12th grade, if they don't drop out before then. They should also perform many hundreds of hours completing community service educating other students about tolerance, spend time at the Holocaust Museum, and never receive scholarships or grants to attend college. Lets save these for deserving students. Let these girls learn how it feels to be bullied and treated differently. Maybe, just maybe, if anyone of the pro-create one day, they will teach their children tolerance of others.
K.C. April 18, 2012 at 06:31 PM
Lauren The level of your anger and the over the top punishments you suggest, which would reach all the way into their collage years and beyond would suggest that you may need some personal therapy. I do not mean to imply that I condone the actions of these young ladies or the mother, but please how about keeping things in perspective and not going off the deep end. I really love the fact that your last statement was to teach tolerance of others, apparently that philosophy does not apply to you?
Cc April 18, 2012 at 10:16 PM
Wow! Lauren who's the bully now. You know nothing about these girls. Be careful you sound like your full of hate. I feel sorry for you.
Cc April 18, 2012 at 10:43 PM
Lets also not forget we have only heard ONE side of the story. Last time I checked there are TWO. People lie...I'm pretty sure we don't know everything about this incident. Besides who even knows if what we know is all true.
sabrina bauer April 19, 2012 at 12:37 AM
What a terrible thing to happen makes me sick and that mother should be punished she obviously had so role in teaching her child that it was ok they should have been expelled and then a judge should order for them to have to take part in classesthat teach about the terrible things that the jews hd to go through and how the people that r survivors made it out alive when so many were had a terrible fate awaiting them sick sad people who have no respect deserve no respect
drew April 19, 2012 at 06:02 AM
i go to nobel middle school and these girls got what was coming to them. i even knew one of the girls. my brother dated her and she'd been to my house!! everyone knew she smoked weed and drank and was annorexic...and these girls were fully aware of what they were doing meant..(a very large population of the school is jewish). and they had to expect consequences like this, they took pictures and put them all over facebook!!! im glad they got expelled from the district and the mom is going to jail. i think they deserve everything theyre getting. at the same time i feel kinda bad for them, because this is an obvious result of horrible parenting. but not bad enough, there is no excuse for this abuse.
mm April 20, 2012 at 12:17 AM
Drew...I hope you never make a mistake your a shamed of. 14 is too young to fully understand ones actions when education is clearly absent in this situation. Were they wrong...yes. Did they fully understand how wrong at the time... NO! Education is what is needed not hate and bullying.
John May 18, 2012 at 07:47 PM
the context that this symbol was used is clearly anti-Semitic. That's obvious so stop being morons for their defense - seriously.
John May 18, 2012 at 08:21 PM
Max, it is clear that they intended to use the symbol as the sign of the Nazis. It's like you saying that taking a crap on someone's door step is a sign of welcome in some countries. Your remarks can be seen as anti-semitic too. Shame on you!
JD May 31, 2012 at 02:18 AM
i go to nobel too. but what you are saying is just retarded. Prank or not, its not right. i know these girls, and so did you. thats the problem with our whole damn school, there is ppl like you to make those kind of comments and think this way. If you go into the school there is a bunch of swastikas, foul language, on the desks, and racist jokes. Students find this humurous, for a reason i will never in my life understand. Leigh datzker knows what he is talking about. i agree with him but i do believe they deserved to be expelled from the district. I am not even a jew but im a kid with some COMMON sence and know that these signs represent the murder of 6 million jews. So, go to the los angeles holocost museum, then come back to this article and comment. They not only put a bad mark on our/the, number one middle school in the district but they offended a whole race. i hope your parents saw what you wrote and they handle it in a good way.
John June 01, 2012 at 06:42 PM
You cannot say whether these girls were aware of what they were doing. Leave Drew alone MM and grow up. People have to be responsible for their own actions - bottom line. No excuses about being young and dumb - it won't work. I guess you know these girls though so you cannot see clearly.

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