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Remembering Gettysburg and the Civil War

For more pictures, visit USAmeltingpot.org
For more pictures, visit USAmeltingpot.org

This week marked the 150th anniversary of the Gettysburg Address, the dedication of the cemetery at Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. It was the turning point of the American Civil War.

 

Confederate troops fired on Fort Sumter in Charleston South Carolina, April 12, 1861. Robert E. Lee surrendered to Ulysses S. Grant at Appomattox Court House on April 9, 1865. It remains the deadliest war in American history, an estimated 750,000 soldiers and an undetermined number of civilian casualties.

 

Historian John Huddleston estimates the death toll at ten percent of all Northern males 20–45 years old, and 30 percent of all Southern white males aged 18–40. The South had better generals: Robert E. Lee of Virginia and others. The North had industrial power and sheer numbers.

 

For more about Gettysburg and the Civil war, read my blog post on http://usameltingpot.org/category/culture-country/united-states/

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Thanks!

Dale Murrish


Glenn November 25, 2013 at 08:47 PM
President Obama didn’t attend Tuesday's ceremony commemorating the 150th anniversary of the Gettysburg Address because of scheduling issues stemming from the rollout of his signature healthcare law, the White House said Tuesday. Obama met with senators Tuesday morning to discuss ongoing negotiations with Iran over their nuclear program, and also appeared at The Wall Street Journal CEO Council’s annual meeting. On Wednesday, Obama is scheduled to attend a ceremony at President Kennedy’s grave in Arlington National Ceremony to mark the 50th anniversary of Kennedy’s assassination. Former President Clinton and Hillary Clinton, a possible 2016 presidential candidate, are also scheduled to attend. White House press secretary Jay Carney on Monday noted that Obama had taped an appearance for a Ken Burns project on Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address, which features other living presidents. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/190733-website-woes-force-obama-to-skip-gettysburg-ceremony
John David November 25, 2013 at 09:20 PM
In addition to recording one of the drafts of the address, as asked by Ken Burns, Obama also wrote an essay, as did other prominent Americans, about the Gettysburg anniversary. Presidents can't be at each significant event. The issue of his attendance or of which of the versions of the Gettysburg Address he was asked to and agreed to read is of no importance, especially considering the problems of this administration, and was raised by the author only to get a reaction to a blog no one had commented on.
Dale Murrish November 27, 2013 at 11:00 AM
Carl, if you have those beliefs yourself, I respect that you shouldn't type God's name. But just because you're descended from people who believed that does not give you license to offend people who do believe in Him. Mark Levin and Dennis Prager are two prominent Jews who believe in God. I could also name many others. Many people read your blog articles, which are transmitted far and wide by Patch editors. Thanks for considering the views of everyone.
Dale Murrish November 27, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Prager and Levin capitalize God's name in their writing. Please follow their example instead of poking your finger in the eye of Christians, Hindus, Muslims and others who believe in God.
Carl Petersen III November 27, 2013 at 11:10 AM
Dale Murrish November 27, 2013 at 11:00 AM "if you have those beliefs yourself, I respect that you shouldn't type God's name." ___________________________________________________ The question was not should I allowed to not type his name but should I hold you to that rule? ___________________________________________________ Dale Murrish November 27, 2013 at 11:00 AM "Mark Levin and Dennis Prager are two prominent Jews who believe in God." __________________________________________________ Don't all practicing Jews?
Allen G November 28, 2013 at 01:59 PM
"___________________________________________________ Dale Murrish November 27, 2013 at 11:00 AM "Mark Levin and Dennis Prager are two prominent Jews who believe in God." __________________________________________________ Don't all practicing Jews? " This is a good question. How about, do all Muslims practice Islam?
Dale Murrish November 29, 2013 at 08:38 AM
Carl, based on what you have written, I'm assuming you do not believe in God. That's fine, you are welcome to those beliefs here in America; however, He does exist, whether you believe in Him or not. He has left circumstantial evidence everywhere - the sun that rises every morning, the beautiful world He has made, and creative people made in His image. Please respect the beliefs of everyone. Those who belief in Him respect your right to disbelieve. Why do you insist on poking your finger in our eyes by not capitalizing His name?
Glenn November 29, 2013 at 09:38 AM
Respect is a two way street Dale, so your statement above should have read something like, "You are welcome to those beliefs here in America: however I believe He does exist, …." Instead you wrote, "He does exist, whether you believe in Him or not." Since one can't prove the existence of the supernatural any more than one can disprove it, you cannot logically declare that you are right and someone with a contrasting view is wrong while, at the same time, insisting on mutual respect for each other's position. You also continue to ignore the fact that while you complain about others poking fingers in the eyes of believers by not using capitalization when referencing your deity, you then commit the same offence with respect to those who belief it is forbidden to write out the word G-d.
Carl Petersen III November 29, 2013 at 10:58 AM
Dale Murrish November 29, 2013 at 08:38 AM "That's fine, you are welcome to those beliefs here in America;" ___________________________________________________ Not according to you. By what you have written, this is a belief that must be cured. You will never catch me condemning your personal beliefs, however, as long as you preach that your belief must be the default "truth," I will condemn your actions. ___________________________________________________ Dale Murrish November 29, 2013 at 008:38 AM "He has left circumstantial evidence everywhere - the sun that rises every morning, the beautiful world He has made," ___________________________________________________ This is not any kind of evidence for the existence of any one type of creator. You see your god, the Native Americans saw the Great Spirit and I see the wonders of the natural world. Interestingly enough, which one of those three belief systems has adherents who are more likely to look at that beautiful world and not take responsibility for it's stewardship? ___________________________________________________ Dale Murrish November 29, 2013 at 08:38 AM "Why do you insist on poking your finger in our eyes by not capitalizing His name?" _________________________________________________ Only those who are so timid in their beliefs that they would see a lack of capitalization as a threat.
Daffy Noodnicks November 29, 2013 at 02:17 PM
It is ludicrous that Dale should demand consideration on his terms for his sensibilities when he has and continues to write enormously inconsiderate things. For some bizarre reason he has taken to broadcasting in community websites nowhere near his. My guess is he covets Carls wide audience. It's kind of pitiful.
Dale Murrish November 29, 2013 at 04:21 PM
Not a threat, Carl. Also, there are good people with all three belief systems who care about caring for God's creation. Christians care for people's eternal destiny. Your version of the truth is not necessarily the truth. One day we'll all find out who was right. I have a lot less to lose than you if I'm wrong.
Glenn November 29, 2013 at 05:36 PM
Actually, Dale, you only have less to lose than Carl if you have in fact chosen the "True God" and He/She doesn't mind that you think a valid reason for believing is to hedge your bet. Pascal's Wager has multiple problems that prevent one from placing a "safe bet" on God.
UPinSmoke November 29, 2013 at 09:19 PM
hedging? .....well, that harkens back to the gud ol daze of' 'pardons' ...
Dale Murrish November 30, 2013 at 07:58 AM
Glenn, Carl doesn't believe that, merely says he's descended from people who believe that. From what I've seen of Carl's writing, he's an avowed atheist. Plenty of other Jewish people use conventional terms to refer to God. Was not hedging my bets. My beliefs have nothing to do with how likely it is that I'm right. Just saying that they are the most logical (for me and quite a few others that I personally know) of any belief system I've seen, certainly more logical than atheism, given the evidence. Is that benign enough for you?
Dale Murrish November 30, 2013 at 08:00 AM
UpinSmoke, I was referring to the three belief systems Carl mentioned, without being redundant like he is in pasting the previous comments. Next time maybe I'll say all belief systems, or maybe I'll ignore your hostile comments and let other intelligent readers follow the thread.
Dale Murrish November 30, 2013 at 08:08 AM
Carl, maybe you'd be interested in reading this article about bring faith into the public square: http://troy.patch.com/groups/dale-murrishs-blog/p/bp--are-all-faiths-welcome-in-troys-public-square Some faiths are welcome and others are not, apparently. The voters recalled Mayor Daniels. She was opposed with a full page ad when she ran for city council. Interestingly, all three people who were elected to the city council are members of large evangelical churches in Troy. My conclusion on this is that the opposition to Daniels was purely political and had nothing to do with her religion. Maybe she overstepped her bounds and brought it into the office, trying to do to much as mayor. Or maybe she was just hated because she is who she is. I would expect similar opposition if I ran for office in Troy.
Dale Murrish November 30, 2013 at 08:18 AM
Carl, what do you think of this article? The words of Jesus of Nazareth. Many consider him to be a prophet, and some follow him as Savior and King, trying to obey His commands. http://troy.patch.com/groups/dale-murrishs-blog/p/instructions-for-marriage-from-the-creator. As a result of His commands, I oppose gay marriage in Christian churches. Any objections to this from you?
Dale Murrish November 30, 2013 at 08:42 AM
Touche, I'll quit objecting to atheists writing God with lower case, Glenn. Because I'm not willing to adulterate His name. I've no objection if believing Jews write it G-d out of respect for His name, but I think it hypocrisy for an unbelieving Jew to write it the way Carl does. Sorry, it violates my conscience to write it in lower case.
Daffy Noodnicks November 30, 2013 at 08:58 AM
Calling other people's beliefs is not "logical" and most certainly not "benign". It is quite insulting and you are a hypocrite.
Daffy Noodnicks November 30, 2013 at 09:04 AM
Dale: why would anybody in this community care in the slightest about the wretchedly awful former mayor of Troy, Michigan who was recalled in disgrace who you blindly toady to? I'm going to be very direct with you: (AGAIN) she was recalled because she was a horrible mayor. Period. You tsk, tsk at others for not letting this topic drop, let it drop you hypocrite. Nobody in CA cares anyway.
Daffy Noodnicks November 30, 2013 at 09:09 AM
PS: people across the country who Dale has decided to start bothering: Dale makes it a habit of trying to tell other people what they should do because of how he interprets the Bible. And now you get to share in the fun, aren't you lucky? Please be advised, he in no way is representative of the City where he lives. If his blogs get any attention, it is massively negative. He is only here because he is desperately seeking like minded support.
Dale Murrish November 30, 2013 at 09:59 AM
Carl asked somewhere why I felt compelled to bring my religion into the public square so I was replying to that. The fact that three evangelical Christians were elected to the city council in Troy earlier this month and Janice Daniels finished fourth tells me that the virulent opposition to her was purely political. For those in California, Daffy/Matt is one of my most avid readers in Troy and opposes nearly everything I write (except on benign topics like quilting and bicycling). He rarely says "Nice article, Dale," and won't bother to check out the USA Melting Pot club website, although he does admit that it might be a good thing. Sorry to make all this extra work for you, Matt. Have to follow me on two Patches now.
Dale Murrish November 30, 2013 at 10:03 AM
By the way, Bilal Rathur has written his third article in a series on his Hajj pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia: http://usameltingpot.org/ Let me know what you think, Matt.
Glenn November 30, 2013 at 10:11 AM
No Dale, the fact the Janice Daniels was voted in with two other ultra conservative evangelical Christians and only she was recalled should tell you that it was because she was an ignorant, repulsive, incompetent individual. If it was political, the other two would have been recalled also. Troy's a very conservative city, but they don't tolerate wackos.
UPinSmoke November 30, 2013 at 10:29 AM
dale said: "maybe I'll ignore your hostile comments ".. ................. really? that was hostile? you mean like crusader hostile? what are you, a baby? was it god who told you to capitalize his (??gender?) name? and what was the reason, if he did?
Carl Petersen III November 30, 2013 at 11:16 AM
Dale Murrish November 30, 2013 at 07:58 AM "given the evidence." ___________________________________________________ Dale, one again there is no evidence, only faith.
Carl Petersen III November 30, 2013 at 11:19 AM
Dale Murrish November 30, 2013 at 08:42 AM "Sorry, it violates my conscience to write it in lower case." ___________________________________________________ Nobody asked you to. Dale, it has only been you who insisted that everyone must follow your conventions.
Daffy Noodnicks November 30, 2013 at 08:23 PM
Dale: obviously, nobody in California cares for your extremist nonsense, because you received zero response. I just wanted to give heads up that your extremist rantings are not representative of my city. Enjoy your useless time here being largely ignored. You may note that very few people in Troy, Michigan care for either your or our former horrible mayor's extremist politics either. Of course you won't because that would mean some sort of self analysis or catharsis on your part which you are incapable of, apparently. I will not involve myself in any way with the Melting Pot, because I will not involve myself anywhere you are prominent, because I find you personally odious.
Fortified- AKA Carlos Danger November 30, 2013 at 11:16 PM
Here is the inside scoop. Obama was rehearsing, and kept slipping up by saying "under me", so President Valerie Jarrett told him to leave that part out, to which he quickly obeyed.
Daffy Noodnicks December 01, 2013 at 10:17 AM
"Purely political" is simplistic and totally not true. The voters of Troy are overall, rather conservative. When she was recalled in disgrace, Troy went for a number of local and national conservative candidates. She was recalled and missed being elected by a mile because she did a horrible job as mayor, and was enormously divisive and offensive. This has been pointed out repeatedly. You are also divisive and offensive, Dale, which is why you get so many overwhelmingly negative comments.

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